David Deutsch and Naval Ravikant — The Material of Actuality, The Significance of Disobedience, The Inevitability of Synthetic Common Intelligence, Discovering Good
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“Wealth will not be a quantity. I don’t suppose it may be characterised very effectively by a quantity. It’s the set of all transformations that you’re able to bringing about. That’s your wealth. And if optimism is true, then there’s no restrict to wealth.“
— David Deutsch
David Deutsch (@DavidDeutschOxf) is a visiting professor of physics on the Centre for Quantum Computation, part of the Clarendon Laboratory at Oxford College, and an honorary fellow of Wolfson Faculty, Oxford. He works on basic points in physics, notably the quantum concept of computation and data and particularly constructor concept, which he’s proposing as a brand new means of formulating legal guidelines of nature. He’s the creator of The Fabric of Reality and The Beginning of Infinity, and he’s an advocate of the philosophy of Karl Popper.
Naval Ravikant (@naval) is the co-founder of Airchat and AngelList. He has invested in additional than 100 firms, together with many mega-successes, akin to Twitter, Uber, Notion, Opendoor, Postmates, and Want. You possibly can see his newest musings on Airchat and subscribe to Naval, his podcast on wealth and happiness, on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. You may also discover his weblog at nav.al.
For extra Naval-plus-Tim, try my wildly fashionable interview with him from 2015 (nominated for “Podcast of the Yr”) and our dialog from 2020.
Naval additionally co-piloted the interviews with Ethereum creator Vitalik Buterin and famed investor Chris Dixon.
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SELECTED LINKS FROM THE EPISODE
- Join with David Deutsch:
- Join with Naval Ravikant:
- The Fabric of Reality: The Science of Parallel Universes — And Its Implications by David Deutsch | Amazon
- The Beginning of Infinity: Explanations That Transform the World by David Deutsch | Amazon
- The Beginning of Infinity, Part 1 (with Brett Hall) | Naval Podcast
- The Beginning of Infinity, Part 2 (with Brett Hall) | Naval Podcast
- David Deutsch: Knowledge Creation and the Human Race | Naval Podcast
- David Deutsch: Chemical Scum That Dream of Distant Quasars | TED Talk
- The Best Theory of Knowledge and Progress | Critical Rationalism Hub
- ToKCast | Brett Hall
- Science | Airchat (Where Brett and Naval Discuss David’s work)
- Philosophy and the Real World: An Introduction to Karl Popper by Bryan Magee | Amazon
- Aaron Stupple’s Chapter-by-Chapter Commentary on Philosophy and the Real World | Airchat
- The Science of Can and Can’t: A Physicist’s Journey through the Land of Counterfactuals by Chiara Marletto | Amazon
- Interviews with Chiara Marletto, David Deutsch, and Others About Constructor Theory | Logan Chipkin
- A New View of Children | Taking Children Seriously
- The Four Strands of the Fabric of Reality | David Deutsch
- The Theory Of Everything: The Origin and Fate of the Universe by Stephen W. Hawking | Amazon
- Computing Machinery and Intelligence by A.M. Turing | Mind
- Church–Turing–Deutsch Principle | Wikipedia
- Multiverse | Wikipedia
- Genetic Evolution Was a Prelude to Memetic Evolution (with Brett Hall) [Clip] | Naval Podcast
- Epistemology | Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
- Scientific Method | Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
- If You Say ‘Science Is Right,’ You’re Wrong | Scientific American
- Famous Scientific Theories That Were Proven Wrong | Grunge
- 1946 and All That | LSE
- Summary of Popper’s Lectures at the LSE | Critical Rationalism Blog
- Karl Popper’s Falsification | BBC Radio 4
- “Summary: It’s Not Yet Known. But It Will Be.” | David Deutsch, Twitter
- Lamarckism | Wikipedia
- “Lamarckism! 33 Years After It Had Become Untenable.” | David Deutsch, Twitter
- The Many-Worlds Theory, Explained | The MIT Press Reader
- Copenhagen Interpretation of Quantum Mechanics | Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy
- What is a Qubit? | Quantum Inspire
- ‘Father of Quantum Computing’ Wins $3M Physics Prize | The Guardian
- Shor’s Algorithm | IBM Quantum
- How to Use Occam’s Razor without Getting Cut | Farnam Street
- David Deutsch: A New Way to Explain Explanation | TED Talk
- “The Elephant’s Child” from Just So Stories by Rudyard Kipling | Lit2Go ETC
- “Science Must Begin with Myths…” -Karl R. Popper | Goodreads
- Common Sense | The Chicago School of Media Theory
- Iseult Gillespie: The Myth of Hades and Persephone | TED-Ed
- What is Earth’s Axial Tilt? | Universe Today
- The Infinite Optimism of Physicist David Deutsch | Scientific American Blog Network
- Deus Ex Machina Explained | Fandor
- How to Travel Faster Than Light | Fermilab
- Humans vs. Robots: The Difference Between AI and AGI | Becoming Human: Artificial Intelligence Magazine
- Paradox of Tolerance: To Tolerate or Not to Tolerate? | Academy 4SC
- Quarantine by Greg Egan | Amazon
- Unended Quest: An Intellectual Autobiography by Karl Popper | Amazon
- David Deutsch: After Billions of Years of Monotony, the Universe Is Waking Up | TED Talk
- Quantum Computing Expert Explains How Humans Could Control the Whole Galaxy | Inverse
- How Do Crystals Form and Grow? | Geology Page
- The Origin of Atmospheric Oxygen on Earth: The Innovation of Oxygenic Photosynthesis | PNAS
- Antonio Stoppani’s ‘Anthropozoic’ in the Context of the Anthropocene | The British Journal for the History of Science
- Wealth is Knowledge | David Deutsch
- The Open Society and Its Enemies by Karl R. Popper | Amazon
- The Logic of Scientific Discovery by Karl R. Popper | Amazon
- 2004: What’s Your Law? | Edge.org
- A New Approach to Formulating Fundamental Laws in Physics | Constructor Theory
- Calvin and Hobbes: Calvin Meet Calvin Meet Calvin | GoComics
RESOURCES PROVIDED BY NAVAL RAVIKANT
- Critical Rationalism Hub: A hub of related assets to study all about our Important Rationalism.
- ToKCast by Brett Hall: A podcast selling optimism, unbounded progress and artistic essential considering utilizing the most effective identified explanations from basic physics and philosophy.
- Brett and Naval’s Podcasts on The Starting of Infinity, Part 1, Part 2, and interview with David Deutsch.
- Airchat Science Channel the place Brett and Naval focus on David’s work.
- Philosophy and the Real World: An Introduction to Karl Popper by Bryan Magee
- Aaron Stupple’s room on Airchat goes by way of the guide chapter-by-chapter with distinctive commentary.
- The Science of Can and Can’t: A Physicist’s Journey through the Land of Counterfactuals by Chiara Marletto
- Logan Chipkin’s interviews with Chiara Marletto and different physicists engaged on constructor concept
- Taking Children Seriously website: Every thing TCS associated from what to do throughout a novel state of affairs to the deep underlying clarification binding such a parenting fashion.
- Speak by David Deutsch: Chemical Scum That Dream of Distant Quasars
SHOW NOTES
- [08:03] The affect The Fabric of Reality and The Beginning of Infinity have had on Naval.
- [10:07] The 4 strands.
- [13:04] Dispelling widespread misconceptions about science.
- [19:26] How does data develop?
- [24:26] The advantages of understanding the 4 strands.
- [32:47] How quantum computing arose from attempting to check a multiverse concept.
- [37:40] What a great clarification appears to be like like.
- [42:43] How do conjecture and criticism give us a foundation for optimism?
- [48:38] Translating data into motion.
- [51:20] Synthetic intelligence (AI) vs. synthetic normal intelligence (AGI).
- [56:54] AGI is folks! However how can we guarantee it’ll be good folks?
- [1:03:03] What’s taking AGI so lengthy to get right here?
- [1:08:59] Chemical scum that dream of distant quasars.
- [1:17:47] Are people central to the universe, or only a sideshow?
- [1:20:17] Wealth and assets.
- [1:25:30] Really helpful thinkers.
- [1:28:05] Taking Youngsters Severely, ToKCast, Important Rationalists, and Popper 101.
- [1:31:55] David’s most fascinating issues proper now.
- [1:39:24] Parting ideas.
MORE DAVID DEUTSCH QUOTES FROM THE INTERVIEW
“In some ways, our establishments are wiser than we’re. “
— David Deutsch
“AI [artificial intelligence] has nothing to do with AGI [artificial general intelligence]. It’s a very totally different expertise, and it’s in some ways the alternative of AGI … An AGI can do something, whereas an AI can solely do the slender factor that it’s imagined to do.”
— David Deutsch
“Even essentially the most cautious scientific statement is all theory-laden, and theories are inherently fallible.”
— David Deutsch
“Good explanations start with dangerous explanations. And also you get there—between the dangerous clarification and the nice clarification—by criticism, by conjecturing variance of the story, after which criticizing each them and the unique story, after which selecting the one which survives the criticism. After which you may transfer on from there to a greater factor.”
— David Deutsch
“Data can stay inside our DNA and our genes, and the genes which might be right and helpful get replicated—not simply within the universe, however probably even within the multiverse.”
— David Deutsch
“Wealth will not be a quantity. I don’t suppose it may be characterised very effectively by a quantity. It’s the set of all transformations that you’re able to bringing about. That’s your wealth. And if optimism is true, then there’s no restrict to wealth.“
— David Deutsch
PEOPLE MENTIONED
- Karl Popper
- Richard Dawkins
- Alan Turing
- Alonzo Church
- Hugh Everett III
- Daniel Dennett
- Jean-Baptiste Lamarck
- Charles Darwin
- Stephen Jay Gould
- Erwin Schrödinger
- Niels Bohr
- John von Neumann
- Peter Shor
- Richard P. Feynman
- Rudyard Kipling
- Gregor Mendel
- Persephone
- Hades
- Nike
- Zeus
- Adolf Hitler
- Greg Egan
- Immanuel Kant
- Antonio Stoppani
- Michael Faraday
- William Godwin
- Thomas Babington Macaulay
- Bryan Magee
- Brett Hall
- Socrates
- Plato
- Chiara Marletto
- Logan Chipkin
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